"Mm. … Rabbi Sufrin Chabad came up with the idea of having a giant Menorah. Again, Gants Hill is, of course, where his office was. He was a Cranbrook Road Jew originally but then he went to the Eastern Avenue... that’s now been pulled down, it’s in temporary accommodation in Gants Hill but a new Chabad has been built on the site of the Eastern Avenue one. Now the obvious place was Gants Hill roundabout. He came to see me, I said ‘Great idea.’ He said ‘Look, there-there’ll be no cross to the Council. We’ll finance it, we’ll get it… sponsored. Well, I said, ‘But you do realise…we don’t own Gants Hill roundabout!’ [laughing] It belongs to TFL [Transport for London]. I said y’knowIt’s uh… Charlie Brown’s Roundabout…Forwell’s Cross rather we own, but when you’re looking a roundabout we don’t know. RIGHT, who do we have to contact. I said TFL. Oh yeah, good luck working with TFL!"